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מאחר ולא יימצאו הרבה מתנדבים באייל להודות בכך, אז אם הייתי נשאל בסקר, הייתי מצרף את קולי לשני השליש התומך בעידוד הגירת ערבים. ולא שוקל (גם לא בעבר) להצביע כ''ך.
תמיכתי לא צריכה לא צריכה לזעזע אף אחד, שכן אני תומך בצעד חריף הרבה יותר כלפי יהודים. אני בעד פינוי (כמעט) כל שטחי יש''ע מיהודים. כאן אני לא רק תומך בעידוד. כאן אני תומך בפינוי אקטיבי על אפם וחמתם של המתיישבים היהודים.
אני בעד עידוד הגירת ערבים משטחי ישראל בשל הבעיה הדמוגרפית. אחרי הכל אני לא מעוניין להתעורר יום אחד עם רוב ערבי. יסלחו לי כל המתרעמים על תוצאות הסקר, אבל אני די בעד רוב יהודי. עניין הישרדותי שכזה.
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In my previous positing on the issue discussed here I have left an open question in regard to the possible situation between Israel and the Palestinians. It was left open deliberately, a kind of taking added air before jumping into a conclusion.

Though opinions varied (naturally) it seems that the solution is not that far away, provided the other side will go hand in hand with us. But even if we will not get the cooperation from the Palestinians, the road is pretty clear already.

The unilateral “Separation” is not the best idea there is. The “separation” is the best among the bad possible scenarios and that is how we should view it.

Departing from the Gaza Strip is a good place to start with; we never been so keen about this area anyhow, we always know that the “Strip” is the bottom of the Palestinian barrel from all sorts of reasons (we have some contributing part in that as well, admittedly).
A unilateral “separation” from the Gaza Strip is not desirable act it is a reflection of reality. There is no way in the current circumstances that the influential terror organizations there would come to terms with us any how, so why to bother.

It became apparent that the freeze in the political situation between Israel and the Palestinians is playing dearly to the hands of the later. A Political move was right on time and not one moment too early (some may claim that a law suit is the reason – nonsense, it was a must from all the good reasons and coincidentally was in line with the Law suit threat – though it may used as a swifter). The relationship with the US could have been deteriorated severely without such a move and the sloop in the Israel-European Union declining relationships was halted somewhat as a result.

The evacuation (some calling it a transfer) of thousand of Jews, Israelis, brothers, our own people from lands in the “Stripe” is painful, it is a terrible act but we do not have (as it is realistically seems) better choices, not in the Gaza Stripe.
We are all making a terrible mistake by not understanding the settlers stress and agony that is sure to rise as a result of the evacuation (Transfer). Instead of throwing a mud on their faces we have to let them understand that we are with them in their pain and trouble, their pain is our pain, we will make sure that they will be settled in an exchangeable location within the “Green Line” and we will help them in this process.

The bottom line is that we have to get out of the “Strip”, not because this is benefiting the Palestinians but because it is our interest, it will benefit us, Israel. If this Unilateral “Separation” is actually stirring an Arabic regional activity combined with the PA’s by making sure that the extremists will not rise in the “Day After” then the “Unilateral Separation” got the job done by forcing the result we always were aiming at namely: the efficient control of the PA over the Palestinian Extremists.

From the military aspect the “Strip” is containable as well. The “Philadelphi” rout will stay in our hands anyhow and if desired and becomes necessary, in case of Kassems on Sdairot and Ashkelon, we will be always able to surround the “Stripe” with enough cannons batteries, identify the sources of fire in real time, by way of radar of Unman Airplanes, and apply the right retaliation response (A kind of remote pin-pointing elimination). That activity may not halt the firing completely but it will play to our hands in the international arena. Sure there are other remedies in the hand of the IDF but that is not the place to discuss them.

The Western Bank or the “Bank” is a different story. Here we are dealing with the narrow waist of Israel.
Let’s admit it; the Israeli independent (48th) war though ended up in our victory did not make good on the other fronts especially on the soft belly of Israel, the Israel’s center.
If the Palestinians are feeling that free of complaining about the 48th war results what interfering us in claiming the same?

Sure enough, historically the “Bank” was settled by Jews, actually the “bank” was more Jewish in historic times then the sea level plateau. To that extent that we may even suspect that partially we are fighting there our own blood.
Nevertheless, we have to deal with practicalities as well and now we are having the opportunity to correct the 48th mistakes or underachievement.

The suggested solution for the “bank” of concentrating primarily in settlement-defined-areas that is as close as possible to the 49th “Green Line” that widens Israel hips, as well as the Jerusalem corridor, is a good measure, short and long run alike.

The Separation Fence or the “fence” is a fundamental part of the separation plan and rightfully so. The “fence” value is already a proven fact. It is hard to quantify the “Fence” value but it is sure to stop certain amount of terror acts against Israel.
Like it or not, the “Fence” is defining the future borders of Israel so the current rout though it seems sometime out of a treason it is reasonable to the light of the intention poured behind. The “Fence” is prompting the Palestinian (and the world) that Israel is serious in its desires to end up the violence and making a practical separation from them.
At the end of the process some compensation should be granted to those Palestinian residents that suffered damages as a result of the “strange” rout of the fence, nevertheless, this rout should stay as is, while any effort should be applied in minimizing the damages to the residents there that is associated with the “Fence” rout.
Compensation or exchange of lands should left open for the time being. We may want, need, forced to make some exchanges that includes the ‘Wadi-Ara’ and the Arabic “Triangle” and that should be left for the final peace negotiation (whenever that may be)

Two additional major issues should be left for the final peace negotiation: The state of Jerusalem and the Jordan Valley area. On that in others posting.

No, I did not forget the “Right for Return”. I do know very well that this issue is nil, does not exist, nada, gone with the wind. No discussion on that issue is needed or will be done whatsoever.

To those that may ask: “What about the Palestinians, don’t you care about them?” I will answer: yes I do (after all I spent 5 years of my life solely among Arabs), never the less I never forget that my poor are always ahead of the other’s poor.
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למקרא דבריך, עלתה במוחי החידה הבאה: בעוד רבים מקרבנו אוהבים לשכוח את העובדה שרבים מערביי ישראל הם אזרחים טובים ומועילים המשפרים את איכות החיים במדינה, הרי שרק מעטים יטענו שיש במדינה מחסור חמור בעבריינים פליליים. מדוע לא עולה הצעה לעודד הגירה של עבריינים לחו"ל ע"י תמריצים כספיים אני מניח? (מאחר וחלק לא קטן מהחברה האלה הם ערבים, הרי גם טרנספריסטים יכולים ליהנות מן הרעיון).
איכשהו הצעה כזו לא עלתה אף פעם. תמיד נטפלים ל"האשם תמיד".
אשר לדאגה לרוב יהודי: למיטב הבנתי הצעתך לפנות את השטחים תהיה הרבה יותר מועילה. נראה שחלק לא קטן מהגידול של המעוט הערבי ישראלי הוא ההגירה ההחפשית מהשטחים שממיטים עלינו חסידי א"י השלמה.
מעשית, התוצאה היחידה של עידוד (כספי) של הגירת ערבים יהיה בג"ץ של יהודים נגד הקיפוח.
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הצאצאים של העבריינים עשויים לחזור בתשובה ולהיות אזרחים מועילים. הצאצאים של הערבים יישארו ערבים.
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1- הצעה: מצא לך איזה ענק וטפס על כתפיו. הנוף מרהיב וגם מזג האויר יותר נוח.

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