I’m not an expert about the oppression of the Jewish-Arabs by the state of Israel. From what I read the oppression against them by the state of Israel was more than just based on family relations, it was a systematic racism. This organized racism stemmed from the oriantalist and euro-centric ideology of the founders of the state of Israel. Ben Guryon, for example, advised commander in the Israeli army to educate the Jewish-Arabs “how to use toilet properly, take a shower, not steal, and not to rape and kill Palestinian women”. In my opinion this situation has changed (and some people will disagree with that). I think that with the need of Israel to conquer more land and to occupy and annihilate the Palestinians, the state of Israel could not allow another rebellion or splits in the “center”. Out of necessity the Jewish-Arabs were allowed to join the mainstream. In other words, the unity between Jewish-Arabs and Euro-Jews could not be possible without the oppression of the Palestinians. I would go further and argue that the state of Israel itself couldn’t be possible without the exploitation, annihilation, and oppression of the Palestinians. The state of Israel and Palestine consist of a “unity of opposition” in my mind, and the state of Israel cannot exist without the economic exploitation of the Palestinian. Again, I’m not an export on the subject of the oppression of the Arab-Jews but I can recommend you some books if you are interested.

On the contrary, you are the one who ignored my comments. If Blacks in America are subjected to institutionalize racism, can’t find any decant jobs, and never get proper education what option do they have? If the state is the first to suppress political activities by blacks to improve their situation, than what right does the state have to arrest and punish blacks that are trying to brake away from these conditions? And most importantly, if the state creates the conditions that give rise to criminal life stile, than what right does the state have to punish or jail people?
Furthermore, you are ignoring the way the justice system operates. If there is racism what are the changes of a person from a minority to receive a fair trial? What are the chances of a person who can’t afford a lawyer or bail to receive a fair trial? Our disagreement revolves around the rule of the state. In your mind the state is above oppression, some independent body that mediates and work to overcome these conditions. And in my view, that is supported historically, the state is part of and an instrument to enforce those inequalities. In America, for example, inequality and oppression is enforced through the arm forces, the police who guards privet property and the FBI who kill and arrest political activist. In your country too, oppression, exploitation, and racism, is maintained through the army, the police, and the Shin-Bet, or through the activities of the modern version of the KKK, the settlers movement.

Criminal activities are a form of resistance. In a society where poverty and hunger is not a “choice”, but are inflicted by the state and more fundamentally by an economic system, criminal behavior is resistance. Again, gangs were recruited to political work during the Black Panther movement, to which the state retaliated by killing Black Panther members in what became later known as the CoIntl program.

I don’t know how to break it down for you, but if you think that somehow blacks unlike whites (or Indians) cannot figure out a way to live peacefully, than what you are saying is very problematic. You are disconnecting social experience and choices in life. This kind of argument is raise a lot of times in your country when people argue that the Palestinian are “choosing” to fight out of a religious fanatic hatred for the Jews. That the Palestinians willingness to fight your country is disconnected from the oppression and exploitation that they are subjugated too by the state of Israel.

The comment about European culture and Israeli culture was in regard to you upholding the right of the state to execute people who commit crimes. To that I asked what about the people who create or support the condition that give rise to criminal activity in the first place. What about people who kill hundred of thousands of lives under the legality of the law? If Saddam deserved to be executed what about the people who aided him and supported him? All those piety crimes that you are mentioning are nothing when compared to the criminal activities and mass killing of people who are part of the mechanism of the state. People who are usually white, from an upper middle-class background, and that would never be brought to justice.

But most importantly I would like to know where do you get the idea that Black people commit crimes or kill “because someone has talk to them rudely” or to “get new seats in their cars”? I get the feeling that based your ideas according to what you see on MTV, or in mainstream movies.

arab jews, not jewish-arabs.

Thanks, but isn’t that a question of individual identity?

well, i'd say it was a question of linguistics...

Your right, it is. I should have written Arab Jews.