(Sorry for the english)

"Orange Crush" is about torture of political prisoners? I was sure it's an anti-military song.

also, in my opinion, REM's "mainstrimism" has again become alternative (and some may call it even "old fashioned") since, in my opinion, mainstream american music has moved on so much so now rap has become mainstream. don't know much about "Up" and "reveal" (I didn't like both) but "New Adventures in Hi-Fi" sure has several songs with a political agenda. e.g., "new test lepper".