בתשובה לNA NACH NACHMA NACHMAN MEUMAN, 09/09/02 23:40
הערה 90605
הטקסטים המרתקים שלמעלה (מאת "נ...מאומן" ו- "Na...Meuman") מובאים בלי ציון מקור.
במקרה נתקלתי לפני זמן לא רב בספר שיחות של רבי ישראל אודסר. הספר, בניגוד לספרי ברסלב אחרים, מסומן בחותמת "לא להפצה - לאנ"ש‏1 בלבד". הספר יצא בסוף שנות השמונים.
לפי מיטב זכרוני, המלבן הקודם מועתק מהספר.

שיחות אחרות חוזרות על אותם מוטיבים: ישראל אודסר פרש מדרכי בית אביו והפך לחסיד ברסלב; בעבור זה זכה לבזיונות רבים בבית ובישיבה; נכשל באכילה בצום י"ז בתמוז (וזה נודע לחבריו); ואז מצא פתק שבו הסימן המובהק "יז בתמוז יאמרו שאינך מתענה", הוכחה ניצחת למקורו השמיימי.

1 אנ"ש = אנשי שלומנו
האם גם לי מותר? 90616
I had this story from one who had no business to tell it to me, or to any other. I may credit the seductive influence of an old vintage upon the narrator for the beginning of it, and my own skeptical incredulity during the days that followed for the balance of the strange tale.

When my convivial host discovered that he had told me so much, and that I was prone to doubtfulness, his foolish pride assumed the task the old vintage had commenced, and so he unearthed written evidence in the form of musty manuscript, and dry official records of the British Colonial Office to support many of the salient features of his remarkable narrative.

I do not say the story is true, for I did not witness the happenings which it portrays, but the fact that in the telling of it to you I have taken fictitious names for the principal characters quite sufficiently evidences the sincerity of my own belief that it MAY be true.

The yellow, mildewed pages of the diary of a man long dead, and the records of the Colonial Office dovetail perfectly with the narrative of my convivial host, and so I give you the story as I painstakingly pieced it out from these several various agencies.

If you do not find it credible you will at least be as one with me in acknowledging that it is unique, remarkable, and interesting.

From the records of the Colonial Office and from the dead man's diary we learn that a certain young English nobleman, whom we shall call John Clayton, Lord Greystoke, was commissioned to make a peculiarly delicate investigation of conditions in a British West Coast African Colony from whose simple native inhabitants another European power was known to be recruiting soldiers for its native army, which it used solely for the forcible collection of rubber and ivory from the savage tribes along the Congo and the Aruwimi. The natives of the British Colony complained that many of their young men were enticed away through the medium of fair and glowing promises, but that few if any ever returned to their families.

The Englishmen in Africa went even further, saying that these poor blacks were held in virtual slavery, since after their terms of enlistment expired their ignorance was imposed upon by their white officers, and they were told that they had yet several years to serve.

And so the Colonial Office appointed John Clayton to a new post in British West Africa, but his confidential instructions centered on a thorough investigation of the unfair treatment of black British subjects by the officers of a friendly European power. Why he was sent, is, however, of little moment to this story, for he never made an investigation, nor, in fact, did he ever reach his destination.

Clayton was the type of Englishman that one likes best to associate with the noblest monuments of historic achievement upon a thousand victorious battlefields--a strong, virile man --mentally, morally, and physically.

In stature he was above the average height; his eyes were gray, his features regular and strong; his carriage that of perfect, robust health influenced by his years of army training.

Political ambition had caused him to seek transference from the army to the Colonial Office and so we find him, still young, entrusted with a delicate and important commission in the service of the Queen.

(המשך יבוא, או לא)
האם גם לי מותר? 90712
אודה ולא אבוש, הגעתי עד לתחילת הפסקה השישית בלי לדעת מה אתה רוצה (ואז זה השתנה).
האם גם לי מותר? 90714
האם גם לי מותר? 91420
Do you know that an old liar made sexual relations with his followers ? That he told them “Its your Tikun hanefesh”?

Make them dance in the Jewish streets now ! And let them sell his damned books !

The “Rabbi of all the Jews”? Their young sisters already danced with him !

One of the victims.

Re: NA NACH NACHMA NACHMAN MEUMAN 111207
These "Swingers" are NOT the Rabbi's pupils. This Rabbi (Odesser) is more than pure... But these idols dont believe in his holy teachings and are making legal abominations
Re: NA NACH NACHMA NACHMAN MEUMAN 535544
The police forces doesn't do anything against them. Is pedophilia legal in Israel?

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2...
האם גם לי מותר? 539043
Rabbi Israel Dov Odesser "MADE SEXUAL RELATIONS" with his followers... Learn english my precious studentit you should write from now Rabbi Israel Dov Odesser HAD INTERCOURSE (sexual intercourse is better) or HAD SEX with his followers thats all. Do you want courses?

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